Playing Black in Indian systems without c2c4: a repertoire for the ...g6 and the ...e6 player
Daniel Hill, Dave Regis and Steve Webb (Credits)
 A. Colle System
 B. London System
 C. Torre Attack/Torre System vs. King Fianchetto
 D. Trompovsky
 E. Systems with g3
 F. Systems with a delayed c4
 G. Stonewall Opening
 H. The RichterVeresov system
A. Colle System
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 and 3. e3

There is a club booklet on the Colle.
Black plays ...g6 against the Colle
This is wellknown as a good system: the Bd3 bites on granite and e3e4 results in a Pircstyle game satisfactory for Black.The Colle proper is a system which follows 1. d4 d5, which is not the Indian moveorder, but you may end up in the line below:
4. c3


8. b4=
Since
[8. e4 dxe4 9. Nxe4 cxd4 10. Nxd4 Ne5 11. Nxf6+ Bxf6 12. Be2 Bd7 is =+]
Colle system vs. King's Indian
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. e3

Belavanets  Bronstein 13th USSR semifinal, 1941
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6 3. Nc3 e5 4. Nf3 Nbd7 5. g3 g6 6. Bg2 Bg7 7. OO OO 8. b3 Re8 9. e3 c6 10. Qc2 Qa5 11. a4 Nf8 12. Ba3 Bf5 13. Qb2 Rad8 14. Rfd1 e4 15. Nd2 Ne6

fianchetto of the King's bishop
use of the epawn to gain an initiative on the Kside
overprotection of the advanced e4pawn
move all the pieces to the Kside in a committal attack
16. b4 Qc7 17. Rdb1 Qd7 18. c5 Ng5
More overprotection
19. cxd6 Bh3 20. Bh1 Qf5 21. Ne2 Nd5 22. b5 Bg4

Two swordswipes with the Knights decide the game.
23...Nxe3+ 24. Ke1 Nf3+ 01
Black plays ...e6 against the Colle
3. e3

3... Bg4 4. Nbd2 Nbd7 5. h3 Bh5 6. c4 e6 7. Qb3 Rb8

Colle with ...b6
2... b6 3. e3 Bb7"The Queen's Indian formation against the ColleZukertort has a reputation for reliability; Black indeed had a good plus score in the games examined." TRENDS
4. Bd3 e6 5. OO c5

[6. c3 is the traditional recipe]
6... Be7
is the main line but others are known:
[6... cxd4 7. exd4 Be7 8. Re1 OO 9. a4 a6 10. Nf1 d6= KovacevicHulak, 1985 (BCO)]
[6... d6 is known to theory]
[6... Nc6!? 7. b3
[7. a3 Be7 8. Re1 OO 9. b3 d6 10. Bb2 Re8 11. c4 Nb8 YusupovSax, 1988 (1/21/2, 63)]
7... cxd4 8. exd4 Nb4 9. Be2 Rc8 10. c4 d5 YusupovChernin, 1987 (1/21/2, 18)]
Colle,Edgar  Capablanca,Jose (18) [A47] *Karlsbad, 1929
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 b6 3. e3






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B. London System
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 and 3. Bf4

Black plays ...g6 against the London System

3... Bg7 4. e3 d6
[4... d5 is recommended by Varnusz, but may not sit easily in the repertoire of a KID player. Also anecdotal evidence suggests that ...d5 may suit a London player's style]
5. h3
To preserve the Bf4, but it has at the moment little scope and its position even invites ...e5. We will look at an example game:
PolugaevskyGufeld, 1979
5... OO 6. Be2 c5 7. Nbd2 cxd4 8. exd4 Nc6 9. OO Bf5 10. c3 Rc8=

11. Bh2 a6 12. a4 Re8 13. Nc4 d5 14. Nce5 Qb6 15. Ra2 Ne4 16. Nxc6?!
[16. g4!?]
16... bxc6 17. a5 Qb7 18. g4 Bd7 19. Ne5

An unusual exchange!
20. Bxe5
[20. dxe5 e6 /\ ...c5]
20... f6 21. Bh2 c5 22. f3 Ng5 23. h4 Nf7 24. Re1 Bb5 25. b3 cxd4 26. cxd4 Rc3 27. Kg2 e5 28. Bxb5 Qxb5 29. Rae2 Rd3


White's poor Bishop could do nothing about the Black attack, and finally dies on what should be its best square!
HillsWebb 1995
5... Nbd7for 5...OO see below
6. Be2
[6. Bd3 is deterred by the Pawn on g6]
6... OO 7. c4
[7. c3 and Nbd2 is a slower way to play the system; Black can play the Bc8 to b7 as in the game.]
[7. OO Qe8 is recommended in the book (Varnusz), planning ...e5]
or
[7... c5 8. c3 b6 9. a4 Bb7 10. Bh2 a6! Varnusz]
7... c5
Thematic, playing to pressurise the long diagonal.
8. Nc3 cxd4 9. exd4 b6 10. OO Bb7 11. Qc2 Rc8 12. b3
Defends the c4 Pawn but weakens the dark squares.
12... a6
/\ ...b5
13. a4 Re8 14. Rfd1 Nb8

15. d5 Nxd5
draw agreed (!)
[15... Nxd5 16. Bd2 Nb4+ ]
One last one with a slightly different move order.
Short,NKasparov,Gary/Skelleftea (4) 1989
2... c6 3. Bf4 d6 4. h3 Qb6 5. b3 c5 6. dxc5 Qxc5 7. c4 g6 8. Nc3 Bg7 9. Rc1 Bf5

10. Be3 Qa5 11. Bd2 Qd8 12. Nd4 Be4 13. e3 Nc6 14. Nde2 Bd3 15. Nf4 Bxf1 16. Kxf1 OO 17. g3 e6 18. Kg2 d5 19. cxd5 exd5 20. Qf3 d4 21. Ncd5 Nxd5 22. Qxd5 Qe7 23. Rhe1 Rad8 24. Qc5 Qd7 25. e4 Ne5 26. Red1 b6 27. Qc7

Sacrificing the Knight for some play
29... Qxa4 30. bxa4 gxf4 31. gxf4 Nd3 32. Rc6 Nb2 33. Rdc1 Nxa4 34. f5 Rfe8 35. f3 Ra8 36. Kh1 Nc5 37. Rg1 Kh8 38. Rc7 Rf8 39. Bf4 Rac8 40. Re7 Rce8 41. Rc7 Nd3 42. Bd6 Rg8 43. Rxf7 Be5 44. Rxg8+ Rxg8 45. Rd7 Nf2# 01
Black plays ...e6 against the London System
3. Bf4

[3... d5 4. e3 Bd6 5. Bg3 c5 6. c3 Ne4 7. Bxd6 Qxd6 8. Nbd2 Nxd2 9. Qxd2 Nc6 = OsmanovitchLputian, 1983]
4. e3 Bb7 5. Bd3
[5. c4 is Miles' variation in the Queen's Indian 5... Ne4]
5... Be7 6. h3 OO 7. Nbd2 c5 8. c3 d5 9. OO Qc8 10. Re1 Ba6 11. Bc2 Rd8 12. Ne5 Nc6 13. Bg5 h6 14. Bh4 Qc7 15. f4 Rac8 16. Qf3 Ne4
1/21/2 GulkoBrowne, 1988 (Given in The London System by Soltis)
C. Torre Attack/Torre System vs. King Fianchetto
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 and 3. Bg5

Black plays ...g6 against the Bg5 system
3. Bg5

White can try and fiddle c2c4 or Nb1c3 with 4. e3, but this forgoes e2e4.
4. Nbd2 c5
White can now try
5. Bxf6 or
5. c3:
we'll look at a game with each.
5. Bxf6 e.g. Spiridonov,NKasparov,Gary/Skara (4) 1980
5. Bxf6 Bxf6 6. Ne4 Bxd4! 7. Nxd4 cxd4 8. Qxd4 OO 9. c4

9... Nc6 10. Qd2 d6 11. Nc3 Be6 12. e4 Qb6 13. Rd1?!

13... Ne5 14. b3 f5! 15. Be2 f4!+

16. Nd5 Bxd5 17. Qxd5+ Kg7 18. OO Rac8 19. b4 Qxb4 20. Rb1 Qa3 21. Rxb7

21... Kf6!!
...but they are all onemove deep, and this stops the lot!
22. h4 h6
[22... Qxa2? 23. Bg4]
23. Rd1 Rb8
[23... Qxa2?? 24. Qxd6+ exd6 25. Rxd6#]
24. Rc7 Rfc8 25. Rxc8 Rxc8 26. Qb7 Qc5 27. Qb2 Qb6 28. Qc1 g5 29. Rd5 e6 30. hxg5+ hxg5

5. c3 Bisguier,ArthurFischer,Robert/New York chUS Rd: 5 1965
5... cxd4

6. cxd4 Nc6 7. e3 OO 8. a3 h6 9. Bh4 d6 10. Bc4 Bf5 11. h3 Rc8 12. OO e5 13. e4 Bd7 14. dxe5 dxe5 15. Ba2 g5
with the epawn fixed, the lightsquared Bishop lacks access to f5 and related squares, so this is quite safe here.
16. Bg3 Qe7 17. Re1 Rcd8

18. Nh2 Be6 19. Bxe6 Qxe6 20. Nhf1 Rd3! 21. Re3
takes e3 away from the Nf1.
21... Rd7 22. Qb3 Qe7 23. Nf3 Rfd8 24. Rae1 Nh5 25. Rc3 Qf6 26. Ne3 Nd4

27. Nxd4 exd4 28. Ng4 Qg6 29. Rd3 Nxg3
White faces an uncomfortable choice
30. fxg3 Rc7 31. Nf2 Rdc8 32. Re2 Rc1+ 33. Kh2 h5 34. Qxb7 Be5 35. Qd5 R1c5 36. Qd7 h4 37. Nh1 Rc1 38. Rf3 g4

39. Qxg4 Qxg4 40. hxg4 Kg7 41. Rf5

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Another recent game featuring ...g6 was this encounter:
Short Nigel DKasparov Gary/Cup World, Reykjavik (Iceland) 1989
2... c6 3. Bf4 d6 4. h3 Qb6 5. b3 c5An interesting tempoloss
6. dxc5 Qxc5 7. c4 g6 8. Nc3 Bg7 9. Rc1 Bf5

10. Be3 Qa5 11. Bd2 Qd8 12. Nd4 Be4 13. e3 Nc6 14. Nde2 Bd3 15. Nf4 Bxf1 16. Kxf1 OO 17. g3 e6 18. Kg2 d5 19. cxd5 exd5 20. Qf3 d4 21. Ncd5 Nxd5 22. Qxd5 Qe7 23. Rhe1 Rad8 24. Qc5 Qd7 25. e4 Ne5 26. Red1 b6 27. Qc7

Sacrificing the Knight for some play
29... Qxa4 30. bxa4 gxf4 31. gxf4 Nd3 32. Rc6 Nb2 33. Rdc1 Nxa4 34. f5 Rfe8 35. f3 Ra8 36. Kh1 Nc5 37. Rg1 Kh8 38. Rc7 Rf8 39. Bf4 Rac8 40. Re7 Rce8 41. Rc7 Nd3 42. Bd6 Rg8 43. Rxf7 Be5 44. Rxg8+ Rxg8 45. Rd7 Nf2# 01
Torre Attack (Bg5 against ...e6)
3. Bg5

...b6 systems tend to be upset by d4d5

There are two alternatives:
[4. e4 Wagner Gambit, a sharp line 4... cxd4 5. e5 h6 6. Bh4 g5 7. Bg3 Nh5 8. Qxd4 Nc6 9. Qe4 Bg7 MarshallNimzovitch, Berlin 1928. /\ ...Nxg3 and x e5]
[4. c3 4... cxd4 5. cxd4 Qb6 6. Qc2 Nc6 7. Nc3?
[7. Bxf6 gxf6 8. e3 d5 9. Nc3 Bd7 10. Be2 Be7 11. OO OO 12. Na4 Qc7 13. Nc5 Rfc8 14. Nxd7 Qxd7 15. Qa4 Ne5 16. Qxd7 Nxd7 17. Rfc1 Nb6=/+ "Black's Knight is more powerful"  BELLIN LarsenPortisch, Tilburg 1980]
7... Bb4
[7... Nxd4]
8. e3 d5 9. Bd3 Bd7 10. OO Be7
"By now you should realise that this game lacks quality"  Daniel 11. a3 h6 12. Bxf6 gxf6 13. b4 Rc8 14. Rfc1 f5 15. Qe2 OO
and now White blundered with
16. Na4?
[16. Nd2+/= x c5]
16... Nxd4! StenhouseHill, Portsmouth 1996]
After the main line with 4. e3, Black has two alternatives:
Risky 4...Qb6
Positional 4... cxd4
One rare alternative:
4... Be7 5. Nbd2 Nc6 6. c3 cxd4 7. exd4 OO 8. Bd3 b6 9. OO Bb7 10. Re1 h6 11. Bxf6 Bxf6 12. Ne4 Be7 13. Bb1 d5 14. Ng3 Bc8= R YeJ Ye, Jakarta 1994
Risky 4...Qb6
4... Qb6

White must now decide whether to sacrifice the b2 pawn,
5. Nbd2,
or to defend it with the passivelooking
5. Qc1.
Passive 5. Qc1
5. Qc1 Ne4[5... Nc6 6. c3
[6. Bxf6 gxf6 7. c3 d5 8. Nbd2 Bd7 9. Be2 Rc8 10. OO cxd4 11. exd4 Bh6= HolmovAnikayev, Tbilisi 1976]
6... Ne4 7. Bf4 d5 8. Bd3 Be7 9. Nbd2 f5

6. Bf4 d5 7. c3 Nd7
[7... Nc6]
8. Nbd2 Ndf6 9. h3 Bd6 10. Ne5 c4?!
(This type of move often leaves White free to ignore the centre and attack elsewhere)
11. g4 Nxd2 12. Qxd2 Ne4 13. Qc2 Bxe5 14. Bxe5
and now I played the weakening
14... f../strong>
Aggressive 5. Nbd2
5. Nbd2
5... d5
[5... Qxb2 This looks unwise. 6. Bd3 cxd4 7. exd4 Qc3 8. OO d5 9. Re1 Be7 10. Re3 Qc7 11. Ne5=/and with a nice position for the sacrificed pawn.]
6. Bxf6 gxf6 7. c4 cxd4 8. exd4 dxc4 9. Bxc4 Nc6 10. OO Bd7 11. d5

Positional 4... cxd4
4... cxd4BronsteinWard, Maidstone 1994 /01
5. exd4 Be7 6. c3 b6 7. a4 OO 8. Na3!? Nc6 9. Bd3 Bb7 10. OO Nd5 11. Bd2 Rc8 12. Re1 Qc7=

Summary
If you think that your opponent will defend the pawn with 5. Qc1 then 4...Qb6 is clearly worth a try. However, after 5. Nbd2, White is likely to achieve a better position because no time has been wasted. This is not to say that you can't take the bpawn, if you are looking for a sharp game. For those who prefer a more positional type of game, then 4...cxd4 is ideal.
D. Trompovsky
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5

Black plays ...g6 against the Trompovsky
Ah, now  this booklet has got a big hole in it  you can hardly play ...g6 against the Trompovsky.2...g6 3. Bxf6 exf6
and I think Black already has some problems getting organised.
2... c5
is the sort of move that might appeal to a KID player, particularly if you have a quick look at
3. d5?! Ne4 4. Bf4 Qa5+
A better idea for White is
3. Bxf6! e.g.
3... gxf6 4. d5 Qb6 5. Qc1

[5... d6]
6. c3
[6. e3]
[6. g3]
6... Bg7 7. e3 e6 8. Nh3
Hort says this is unclear. I believe him.
I recommend
2... Ne4
Now I think the best for White is
3. Bf4
Alternatives:
[3. Bh4 g5 4. f3 gxh4 5. fxe4 is the old theory on this line: White will struggle to hold the dark squares]
[3. h4 is Hodgson's favourite]
3... c5
[3... d5 4. f3 Nf6 5. e4 dxe4 6. Nc3 is a BlackmarDiemer Gambit a tempo ahead for White!]
[Another idea for Black is3... Nc6!? /\ 4. f3
[4. d5 e5!]
[4. Nf3!]
4... e5! 5. dxe5 g5! 6. Bc1 Nc5
/\ ...Bg7]
After 3...c5:
4. f3 Qa5+ 5. c3 Nf6
when
6. d5
transposes above.
Black plays ...e6 against the Trompovsky
2. Bg5 e6

[3. Nf3 is the Torre]
Now
3... h6
is the most common move, but not the only one:
[3... c5

4. e5
[4. Nf3 is the Wagner Gambit]
4... h6 5. Bc1 Nd5 6. c4 Nb6 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. Nf3 d5 9. exd6 Qxd6
[9... Bxd6!?]
10. Qxd6 Bxd6 11. Nc3 Nc6 12. Bd2 Nd7 13. OOO Ke7 14. Nb5

Black could have played on with
14... Bc5]
After 3...h6:
4. Bxf6 Qxf6
5. Nc3
White can try the Knight on d2:
[5. Nf3 b6 6. Bd3 Bb7 7. Nbd2 a6
[7... c5 8. e5 Qd8 9. Be4 Qc7 10. OO Be7 11. Re1 OO 12. dxc5 bxc5 13. Bxb7 Qxb7 14. Nc4

8. Qe2 d6 9. OOO Nd7 10. Kb1 e5
Lots of pawn moves, but he must have thought White couldn't rush the centre.
11. c3 Be7 += KorchnoiKarpov, Hastings 1971/72]
5... Bb4 6. Nf3
[6. Qd2 c5 7. a3 Bxc3 8. bxc3 d6 9. f4 OO 10. Nf3 Nc6 11. Bb5 Na5 12. Bd3 b6 13. OO Bb7 HodgsonYudasin, ??]
6... d6 7. Qd2 Nd7 8. a3 Ba5 9. Bd3 OO 10. OO c6 11. b4 Bc7 12. Ne2 e5 =
BezoldBischoff, Altensteig 1994
Summary
I believe 3...c5!? is well worth a try, in order to try and transpose into the Torre. Of course, White can go for a Torre immediately with 3. Nf3, and it will be interesting to see how many White players opt for this. 3...h6 is also OK, although Karpov sank rather against Korchnoi in the game given in the Custer's Last Stand handout.
[Footnote from Frederick Prost: is 3...c5 really so easy?]
E. Systems with g3
1. d4 Nf6 2. g3

Against the ...e6 systems it usually transposes into the Catalan, where Black may have problems whether the centre is closed (Botvinnik) or open (Keene).
Black plays ...g6 against g3
The system with g3 and b3 (without c4) is one to know about:3. b3 Bg7 4. Bb2 d6 5. g3 OO 6. Bg2

Black has an important alternative here:
[6... Nbd7 7. OO e5 8. dxe5 Ng4

[9. Nc3 Pirc 9... Ngxe5!
[9... dxe5 10. Nd2+/= Pirc]
]
[9. c4 Re8 10. h3 Nh6 11. Nc3 dxe5 12. e4 c6 13. Qc2 f6 HolmovGufeld, about equal]
9... Ngxe5?!
[9... Re8! 10. h3 Nh6 11. Na3 dxe5 12. Nc4 f6 which is probably OK for Black]
10. Nxe5 dxe5 11. Nc3 c6 12. Rad1../em>
[12. Ba3+/= ]
]
7. dxe5 Nfd7 8. OO

[8... Nc6 9. Qd2 MilesRistic, 1988 9... Ndxe5 Marovic]
9. e4 Nc6 10. Nbd2 b6 11. Qe2
Now PolugaevskyMedina, 1972, continued:
11... Qe7
[11... a5 Marovic]
12. Rfd1 Nc5 13. Nf1 Ba../strong>
10, 39
[13... Be6 was better, acording to Marovic]
Of course, White might sidle over into the main line with g3:
ArkellNunn/London 1992
3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 OO 5. OO[5. c4 d6 was the game move order]
5... d6

[6. c3]
6... Nbd7 7. Nc3 e5 8. Qc2 Re8 9. b3 c6 10. e3 exd4 11. Nxd4 h5

12. Ba3 Qe7 13. Rad1 Nc5 14. b4 Nce4 15. Nxe4 Nxe4 16. b5 c5
(forced, but the Ba3 needs another post now)
17. Ne2
x d5: Black needs play on the King'sside
17... Bf5 18. Qb3 h4 19. Nf4 Qe5 to prevent Bb2 20. Rd5 Qf6 21. g4 Bxg4 22. f3 h3

[23. Nxh3]
[23. Bxh3]
23... Nc3 24. fxg4 Qh4 25. Rd3 Qxg4+ 26. Kf2 Bd4 27. Rxc3 Qxf4+ 28. Ke2 Qxh2+ 29. Kd1 Bxc3 30. Qxc3 Re5 31. Bb2 Rae8 32. Bd5 R8e7 33. Qd2 Qxd2+ 34. Kxd2 Rf5
[34... Rxe3 35. Bf6 ]
35. Rxf5 gxf5 36. Ke2 h2 37. Kf2 Re6 38. Bc1
[38. Bxe6 h1=Q]
38... Rg6 39. Bg2 Rg4 40. Bd2 Rxc4 01
Black plays ...e6 against the g3 system
2. g3 e6

2. g3 e6

3... c5
[We looked at 4. dxc4 in the Custer booklet: the only other independent line is]
4. c4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 Nc6
which is the English Opening: g3 systems have become fashionable against the Nimzo and so they are another one to slot into your repertoire
6. Bg2 and now 6... d5 is the Tarrasch Defence to the Queen's Gambit
One complex line which offers hances to both sides is
6. Nc3 Qb6!?
[6... Bb4 is safe, 6...Bc5 is uncommon]
7. Nb3
[7. Nc2 d5!? is an approved gambit]
7... Ne5
[7... Bb4!? and 7...d5?! have also been tried]
8. e4 Bb4 9. Qe2

9... a5 10. f4
[10. Be3]
10... a4!? Nunn 11. fxe5 axb3 12. exf6 Rxa2
Pick the bones out of that!
F. Systems with a delayed c4

This is a transpositional device and your main openings books should help you here.
G. Stonewall Opening
1. d4 2. e3 3. Bd3 4. f4

1. d4 d5 2. e3 Nf6 3. Bd3
[3. f4 is sometimes played to avoid the 3...Nc6 line, but then Black can always play ...Bf5]
Black plays ...g6 against the Stonewall
The Stonewall is not pointless, particularly after ...d5/...e6. But an early ...g6 deadens the attack from d3, and Black can try ...d6 and ...e5 to blow up the centre, e.g.1... g6 2. e3 Bg7 3. Bd3 d6 4. c3 Nd7 5. f4 e5 6. Nf3 Ngf6 7. fxe5 dxe5 8. dxe5 Ng4 9. e6 fxe6 10. Nd4 Nde5 11. OO
[11. Be2 OO 12. Bxg4 Qh4+ 13. g3 Qxg4 14. Qxg4 Nxg4=/+ ...1/21/2 Jordan,DRegis,D/Devon vs.Glos 1995]
11... Rf8 12. Rxf8+ Kxf8 13. Qf1+ Kg8 14. Bc2 c5 =+
Black plays ...e6 against the Stonewall
2. e3 d5
[2... e6 immediately has no special virtues, unless you really want to play a ...b6 system]
3. Bd3 c5
[There is also the system with 3... Nc6 e.g.
4. f4
[4. c3 e5!]
4... Nb4! 5. Nf3 Nxd3+ 6. cxd3 g6 7. Nc3 Bg7 8. OO OO=]
4. c3 Nc6
[4... e6 5. f4]
5. f4

blocks the Bc8 better is:
5... Bg4 6. Nf3 e6 7. Nbd2 Bd6 8. h3 Bh5 9. b3 cxd4 10. cxd4 Rc8

H. The RichterVeresov system
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nc3 d5 (Other moves transpose into
e.g. the Pirc or French)

Against the Veresov itself:
3...Nbd7
3...Bf5 and
3...c5
are independent lines with some little theory attached.
e.g.
[3... Bf5 4. f3
[4. e3]
[4. Bxf6]
4... Nbd7 5. Nxd5 Nxd5 6. e4 h6 7. Bh4 N7b6 8. exf5 Ne3 9. Qd2 Nxf1 10. Kxf1=/+ ]
[2... c5 is another idea again, which might appeal to the KID/Benoni player]
Black plays ...g6 against the Veresov
2... g6

Black plays ...e6 against the Veresov
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nc3 e6

3...c5
You will find White players who head for the French here, as pure Veresov ideas like 4. e3 and 4. Nf3 look insipid. These are all playable, particularly at club level (what isn't!).
Credits:
Dan composed the repertoire for the ...e6 player.Steve composed the repertoire for the ...g6 player
Dave typed it up, and is responsible for all mistakes that are not the responsibility of the other authors